The Burning Taper: Radio personalities Russ and Dee Fine reported fired over 'Masonic outing' of Alabama governor

Monday, September 25, 2006

Radio personalities Russ and Dee Fine reported fired over 'Masonic outing' of Alabama governor

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Bro. David Cooksey, Grand Secretary of the United Grand Lodge of America, reported just a few moments ago that Russ and Dee Fine, the radio show hosts in Birmingham, Alabama who "outed" Alabama Gov. Bob Riley for being a member of the "white's only" Grand Lodge of Alabama, have been fired, allegedly over the Masonic issue.

As of noon Monday, Sept. 25, their websites RussandDeeOnline.com and VoiceofAlabama.com are still up and running, and still showing the story and photos of Gov. Riley with Grand Lodge of Alabama Grand Master Frank Little. Noticibly missing in the upper righthand corner is the logo and link that used to lead to their on-air streaming audio.

Image: Dee Fine on the air.

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I wonder if this event will find its way into Dan Brown's upcoming book The Solomon Key.

21 Comments:

Grouchogandhi wrote:: You the know the problem with Freemasonry?

People.; Monday, September 25, 2006 5:38:00 PM
Darren Simpson wrote:: Well... The great, dark, destruction machine has finally moved and squelched free-speech and hidden the truth from those that may care to know it. I bet the Alabama guv'na and the minions of the Alabama GL are in special session tonight for a BBQ and Bingo Celebration. Perhaps they'll wrap things up with a cross-burning or something. Just kidding, of course. Sorry, but seeing free speech taken away and civil liberties being stomped on kind of raises my hackles and I deviate out of that nice, fuzzy, warm place that I usually post from. If anyone doesn't see the inherent WRONG-ness of the situation in Alabama, then they're either in denial or DEAD.

Darren
Calling an apple... an apple.; Monday, September 25, 2006 10:47:00 PM
Tubulcain420 wrote:: sad; Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:28:00 AM
Grouchogandhi wrote:: Anon with the kooky fringe fetish theories. Fools!; Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:29:00 AM
Royston Vasey wrote:: Glad to see them go.
Go away, and stay away, Russ and Dee.; Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:02:00 AM
FM wrote:: Sounds like the racist Grand Lodge of Alabama has sent out their attck dogs now.; Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:21:00 AM
Anonymous wrote:: You guys have been so quick to tout Russ and Dee as your bosom buddies in the war on racism in Alabama. As usual with new groups, you're so excited that someone mentioned you on the radio that you just can't get over the rosy glow. And when your radio pals got whacked, you're so arrogant to believe it was your little story that did it.

If that's really true, your over the top treatment of the issue goaded them into libelous, actionable legal trouble that deprived them of their jobs, and possibly threatened the station's license.

If they got fired because of lousy public ratings, you look like fools for claiming some kind of victory here.

You additionally look like over-the-top nutcases by promoting your own brand of reverse-Masonic conspiracy. Right now, you are an insignificant little group with a VERY noisy web presence. You are NOT doing ANYTHING to help your cause by wallowing in this. Taking potshots at Grand Masters and Governors and getting the press to give you five minutes to do it may satisfy you for a week. But you achieve nothing by being a means to destroying lives and reputations based on your narrow perceptions. You are acting like high school kids "outing" the gym teacher.

Your pals Russ and Dee couldn't care less if the Governor of Alabama or the Grand Lodge is racist or not. Have a look at how the folks on the street regard their views on racism. You were the issue of the day, the headline grabber for the moment. That's all.

Darren and tubalcain, you guys are miserable spokesmen for your cause. You're so damned hot about having the only real concept of what it REALLY means to be a Freemason, and everybody else who is satisfied in their own Grand Lodge jurisdictions are idiots, losers, racists, cowards, traitors, sock puppets, Kool-Aid drinkers, pancake flippers, fish fryers and bicycle seat smelling simps. From what the rest of us see on the internet from you, I can't think of anyone who would want to sit in the same lodge with you. Being a cynical boor is not raising the bar.

Freemasonry's very first lesson is to subdue the passions. In Europe, it takes a year or two to be allowed to advance from EA to FC, and from FC to MM. You can sit in lodge as an EA or a FC. But you have to SHUT UP for that time. Only after you have learned your lessons as a Mason are you allowed to advance. Only after you have been a Mason for a few years are you allowed to speak about it in lodge.

There is a lesson there, if you will bite your tongue long enough to see it.

If the UGLA is going to succeed, there needs to be a lot more passion-subduing in terms of its proponents and their lip flapping.

I have no dog in this fight. I personally wish you guys would work from within and really lead your existing Grand Lodges instead of trying to start from scratch. But I really don't care. I'm with you on the racism point. It's a disgrace and needs to go away. But it will only go away by guys like you TAKING OVER and overwhelming the crackers, making it clear that there's no place in Masonry for racism. You do that from within, not by standing on the outside hurling rocks.

Do what you like. It's your little movement. But for heaven's sake, if you're going to post a public opinion, make it a well thought out one. You are under intense scrutiny right now, and in spite of your own inflated press, you're looking like children.; Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:08:00 AM
Darren Simpson wrote:: Sounds like we have a fan! Should we invite him to a meeting?

Oh look!!! His name is "Anonymous"! Imagine that!

Anonymous...I have sat in lodge for the time required and I sat and listened and kept my mouth shut. Now, as a Master Mason...I am speaking out of what I've seen. You advocate "silence" in the name of subduing the passions. What you really mean is "silence" and subduing the masses!
I am a spokesperson for no one but myself. Racism is what I feel strongly about. If you think it's OK to just allow Grand Lodges to walk over human rights...Hey...then YOU are the one who is a terrible spokesperson for your lodge system. By the way...I don't see any mass run on people petitioning the Blue Lodge lately. Mediocrity is the fate of all who stand still.

Darren Simpson; Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:50:00 AM
Darren Simpson wrote:: Never used Bicycle seat smelling...That's a new one.

Nice rant though... At least we know you're listening. Feel free to post anytime. Visit the other blogs too Like Modern Freemasonic Journal and Chevallier Maconique:)

Darren; Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:52:00 AM
FM wrote:: This is just some racist cry-baby from bama who is mad because their little secret is out.

Go wash your hood and iron your sheet.; Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:56:00 AM
Tubulcain420 wrote:: My cause is nothing more than equality in the fraternity.
Whether its race or titles.
Another GL voted not to recognize, but thats not the issue, the issue is they were close.
That is nice, and until this noise on the internet started, topics of race and status qou were rarely talked about.
Masons being expunged with no trials would have been buried, etc... too much un american/un masonic behavior has been swept under the rug over the past many years and men of action with integrity have walked away and not looked back. These band of brothers are at least trying to make serious changes without worrying about the repercussions from the lemmings.
As long as Gl's remain silent towards th ebehavior of other L's, changes move as fast as a glacier.; Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:24:00 AM
rhino wrote:: That's BS. They got fired because they sucked! Peolpe have been begging for years to get rid of Russ & Tammy Fay. It was their way or no way. Call and disagree..they hang up on you. I am so happy they are gone..just ask Ch 42 CBS.; Friday, October 13, 2006 11:46:00 PM
rhino wrote:: That's BS. They were fired because they are racist, full of crap, and were losing the market. The same reason CBS 42 got rid of them..it was their way or no way. And poor ol Tammy Fay, she just belived anything Russ told here. Where did the Alabama Tea Party go ?? Then it was "Walk with me" It was the happist day when they left. I can now tune in 101.1 in the morning without hearing that crap.; Friday, October 13, 2006 11:53:00 PM
Ron wrote:: This is to rhino,
Without Russ and Dee in the morning your nothing. It's what makes your world go round. You tune into crap now with the exception of Bert and Kert, I kinda like them. Russ and Dee do what no one else has the balls to do including you buddy and that is to spreeeeeeead the truuuuuth. And what makes them so great is that they managed to get away with it for this long. And for the tea parties, there will be more. They will be back, and I'm looking forward to it. 101.1 used to be a great radio station. Not anymore without Russ and Dee.; Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:23:00 AM
Ron wrote:: Oh by the way rhino,

I know your interested in know this so here it is. Russ and Dee Fine expect to return to the airwaves Monday morning on WYDE 850 AM, pending last-minute contract negotiations, as the historic Birmingham station plans to increase its power to 50,000 watts and try to become the state's top talk-radio outlet.; Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:32:00 AM
Ray Lanston wrote:: This post has been removed by a blog administrator.; Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:32:00 AM
Mary and the Widow's Son wrote:: Ray Lanston's comments have been deleted for ad hominem attacks on Russ and Dee Fine and on Freemasons and other posters here. Lanson made some interesting comments, but apparently cannot control himself when it comes to using words like "dumb," "fool," and "pathetic."

He did make a good point, though, in response to Ron's post about Russ and Dee Fine going "back on the air." The article Ron was quoting from was published in 2000, when Russ and Dee first hired on at WYDE, the station which recently fired them.

Facts, not attacks, Ray.; Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:11:00 AM
Ray Lanston wrote:: Fair enough

Posters are welcome to attack Russ and Dee in the same manner in which they attacked at:

http://russanddeeakarussanddumb.blogspot.com/

Sorry to have violated your rules and I hope this meets with your approval.; Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:36:00 AM
Ray Lanston wrote:: Also, Let's be clear. My comments did not attack Free Masons. And, while I fully respect your right to control your blog in any way you choose, my comments were the most factual here

To attacking Russ and Dee, I proudly plead guilty!; Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:52:00 AM
Mary and the Widow's Son wrote:: Ray,

You're more than welcome to post facts and opinions here, about the Fines or anything else. I simply ask that you do so without resorting to name-calling or attacking people because of their overuse of makeup or bleach on their hair.

You did attack Freemasons, the ones who held the protest rally a few weeks ago. You called them "stooges" of the Fines. While I think it's more a case of them using the Fines rather than the Fines using them, and I question the wisdom of protest rallies outside Masonic lodges, they have that right and I'll report what they do.

Say what you want about their actions, but say it about the actions, not the actors. As churchfolk occasionally say, hate the sin, not the sinner. Or in this case, hate the deed, not the doer.

You posted some good info; you just mixed it in with ad hominem attacks. If I let your statements stand, those who disagree with you will also let fly with ad hominem vitriol (it's happened before! — that's why I instituted the "rule") and soon, it's just a flame war.

Good luck with your new blog.

— W.S.; Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:00:00 PM
Anonymous wrote:: ignore darren simpson, he is nothing but a hypprocrite who likes to start trouble. he should have joined a pha lodge from the start because obviously he didn't fit in good in his former blue lodge.; Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:02:00 PM