I've tried, I really have... to stop bothering to read Josh the Baptist's ridiculous anti-Masonic blog. But noooooo... I just couldn't stay away.
I see that yesterday a very polite but opinionated man who identified himself as both a Mason and a Christian left a post on Pastor J's blog. The J-man tried to slice him to ribbons, calling the visitor's God a "false one."
I couldn't help myself — I just had to throw a thought-grenade back into the fray. I'm re-printing it here, 'cause Joshua has taken to deleting posts left on his blog that he doesn't like.
Josh sez: Freemasonry does not bring honor to God! He is not pleased with the organization. I would not desire to be part of a club that forces me to bow to and respect other gods.
I say: Josh, you're so far offbase you're standing outside the stadium getting hit with foul balls. You presume to speak for God now? 'Cause you read something in a 2,500 year old book and think it refers to Freemasonry?
You are so illogical and pompous and yes, full of yourself — not God's love but your own distorted misguided ego-driven pseudo-agape love — that it's frightening. Do you really think God spends His day running around like Donald Trump, saying, "Pleased with that... and that one... and yep, that one... but WHOA! Those Freemasons are ticking Me off!"
I'm starting to wonder if the God YOU believe in is the false one... He's so jealous and mean and petty and easily ticked off.
Oooh... was that sacrilege? I can't say your God isn't the real one? That's what you say about the one referenced in Freemasonry...
The kind and gentle man who didn't sign his name, the latest Mr. Anonymous, comes along and tries to explain to you that he is both a Christian and a Mason, and you have the blanking audacity to call the God he worships — Jehovah God Jesus Christ Holy Ghost Almighty — a false god?
Since you're fond of quoting what others have written, allow me to do the same:
"The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens have ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history." — Robert A. Heinlein in Time Enough for Love
—Widow's Son
Widow's Son,
ReplyDeleteAs usual, you have taken my post, and twisted it to say something it does not say. This is the same tactic you use when reading the Holy Bible - just twist words to say what you want them to say - that is intellectually despicable.
If my blog concerning the anti-biblical views of Freemasonry were so “ridiculous” – why do you continue to wage war against me?
You continue to quote philosophers and other anit-Christian personalities while I continue to quote the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! – Jesus Christ!
Just once more before I leave --- Jesus Christ was crucified, buried, and rose again from the dead. He is alive – and yes – He will return some day for His bride – the church – not the Freemason lodge.
For the glory of God!
Josh Buice
Speaking the truth with love!
Josh said in his post to the anonymous Christian Mason: "When you attend those ceremonies - you are honoring another god! False god - but it is still another god."
ReplyDeleteIn his post to me, Josh accuses me of twisting his words to say something it doesn't say.
If the man identifies himself as a Christian, the he worships God. You said he didn't. I didn't twist words — I repeated exactly what you said, that this Christian was worshipping a "false god," when he says he's worshipping God. You called his God false.
You don't know what was in that man's heart, nor in mine. You have set yourself up as judge of something you don't know anything about.
As long as you continue to post your false statements about Freemasonry, you will be called to task for it, if not by this Widow's Son, then by another. We've smiled and tried to ignore fanatics like you for years, but not anymore.
Widow's Son,
ReplyDeleteYou can play word games with yourself if you like, but the true and living God is not worshipped through the names of different gods like Freemasonry likes to suggest. If that was true, the man in the jungle who worships the wooden idol he made unto himself is really worshipping YHWH -- but that is completely incorrect.
Therefore, just as you would rather me address you as Widow's Son rather than "gum bumper" - God expects the same courtesy. Don't suggest that people worship YHWH by just calling Him whatever that want --- God has identified Himself in the Holy Scriptures - not Freemasonry - and He expects to be worshipped as He has identified in Holy Scripture - not Freemasonry.
Therefore, I remain consistent - God is God and He will be worshipped on His terms - not the terms of Freemasonry.
Josh Buice
Josh, I am a Christian and freemason. You are wrong in the respect that no worship takes place in a masonic lodge. All that enter freemasonry are informed that it does not provide for ones salvation and are admonished to faithfully attened their churches and serve God. Lodge meetings are never conducted on Church nights or Sundays.
ReplyDeleteA lodge is simply a fraternal organization of men who come together from all walks of life and churchh denominates who come together with the belief in the one true and living God and his being the Supreme parent of all. We never discuss denominations nor politics at our meetings as it is proven that either will cause divison.
Personally, I have been an adult Sunday School teacher for many years; and yes, my Lord and personal Saviour is Jesus Christ. Again, just keep in mind that it is a fraternity of men who assemble to do good works in their communities and enjoy each others company as all children of God should do.
I have read our Bible cover to cover over 8 times, pray regularly, and attend my church for my service to God. I would admonish you to read the books "A Pilgrims Path" and "Born in Blood," by John Robinson. He set out to debunk freemasonry and before his death had become a master mason in the fraternity. As admonished in Scripture not to argue over God's word, freemasons are taught not to argue with thoser who through ignorance would ridicule it. The last is not directed in a mean way, ignorance simply indicating lack of knowledge on the subject. I read about Knoghts Templars, Philip the Fair of France and many., many books on the subject of Freemasonry long before I joined the fraternity. This will be the last post that you will receive from me. It was just by chance that I came to this site.
Respectfully,
A Freemason